Whataboutism

Saint_Ann said: "He'd be better off dead!". ~ Eric. Whataboutism Neat

MidBaz said: Don’t worry, I know exactly who and what I was responding to if I’ve learned anything over the past 18 months it is that debate with MAGA is utterly pointless. I won’t be wasting my breath. He got moved to my ignore list when he tried to some whataboutism nonsense about “sleepy Joe”

Can we add a Kellies category this year for worst Platner cartoon? Not even trying to defend the guy, but the sheer volume of whataboutism coming from the right due to Platner is staggering

... Wort, das du suchst, heißt Whataboutism und ist ein unsäglicher Killer...

... 唔好介意我 whataboutism ，搞單一民族...

SD är en sekt och det spelar ingen roll vad de gör, hur många pedofiler och styckmördare som än huserar i partiet känner väljarna alltid att de kan försvara det med whataboutism. Samma sak med Trumpismen/MAGA i staterna.

天皇の地位は国民の総意に基づくもの。神社本庁は1946年に設立された新興宗教法人です。 新興宗教法人に肩入れするのは、国民の総意ではない。少なくとも私の意思ではない。私は認めない。 公明党の話などしていない。Whataboutismは詭弁、やめなさい。

kyzr said: After 4-years of "this is the best version of Joe Biden ever"...by the MSM. A lie and a whataboutism all rolled in to one insipid post.

... hočemo. Včasih smo temu rekli whataboutism, ampak tako pač je. Nekateri...

... det finns folk som svälter. Whataboutism? Det var inte bara på...

.... There is no point in whataboutism but when you look at ...

... etmek istemeyen, kulağının üstüne yatan, whataboutism kasan, hatta sevimli bulan, hatrı...

... donalds. Du vet om att whataboutism inte ändrar något, eller försökte...

Thermos H Christ posted: Oh for sure it’s a ludicrous argument made by a man put in an impossible position who has to say something yeah that was me screaming into the ether at people who do that not aimed at you personally I am very annoyed at the CFB version of whataboutism

... okay, so it is not whataboutism. I'll walk you through all...

... parade arena - YouTube Your   "whataboutism"   is getting worst.   Obama and...

Citat: Ursprungligen postat av 1965 Vad är det för fel på er som röstar på att släppa in mer skit från MENA? Vet ej. Jag röstar inte för detta. Hade du något mer än whataboutism att komma med?

... Symptome ausgelöst hatten. Purer Whataboutism. By The Way. Um zum...

... du nu är inne på whataboutism så ställer jag återigen frågan...

.... Das ist für mich reiner Whataboutism, das sind vollkommen unterschiedliche Themen...

[@t.6281](mention://user/e1000f54-c3ce-4c9b-9f0e-03c97fa44c7f)Biden isnt the president ( no wars under his watch) and "no more endless wars" Trump is. I'm so over the whataboutism.. Own your vote

whataboutism. es gibt genauso Aktien die dich in derselben Zeitspanne ärmer gemacht hätten. Es gilt stets der Zeitpunkt Jetzt! bzgl der Entscheidung, eine Aktie zu kaufen/halten/verkaufen im Hinblick der möglichen weiteren Entwicklung. Alles nur meine Meinung

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The whataboutism. One of my favorite debate fallacies. When discussing a pretty popular subject (such as feminism) you’re prone to attract the IQ deficient to the matter. Please humor me in the matter. submitted by /u/abolish_anime to r/AskFeminists [link] [comments]

Oh let me guess…. I’m about to be gaslit about how every time the Left does it, it’s “calling out hypocrisy” Every single argument you have now is “But Republicans!?” which just goes to show yall never gave a shit about good faith conversations You literally just invented a term to shut down people calling out your shitty behavior and then completely dropped the act it was no longer useful Shame Edit: I’d like to thank all the blatantly lying people in the comments for proving me right. It feels great to be hated by people like you. Tells me I’m doing something right submitted by /u/Sturjbs to r/TrueUnpopularOpinion [link] [comments]

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The Nanking massacre was an event where Japanese forces killed an estimated 300,000 Chinese civilians and disarmed soldiers and committed widespread atrocities over about 6 weeks. As well as raping every single woman in the city. In the Second Sino-Japanese War, total casualties are estimated at 15–20 million Chinese dead overall. The video posted was a remembrance of it where cars in China would honk their horns. But r/Damnthatsinteresting didnt really care How do they honor the victims of the Tienanmen Square Massacre? - by turning off the internet that day - You are calling out the government of China. This video is more about the people of China. --- You must be naive to think it wasnt the government who organized and promoted this. - Comparing those two is an extremely braindead take. Borderline offensive. I can think of another massacre that could use some attention. - CCP: it's only the Nanjing Massacre, what are you talking about? ---Damn these Japan shills are quick. Chinese bots are working overtime, I see I see.. Just don't mention the Tianenmen Square massacre. so what about the Tiananmen Square massacre lol Interesting that they’ll honor the Nanjing Massacre but not the Tianamen Square Massacre When do they honor the victims of the cultural revolution? Or the Tiananmen Square? Well, they never acknowledge Maos famine? The neighbors literally swapped their kids to eat. But let's not talk about Tiananmen and the Uyghurs... Mao Zedong: 55,000,000 Nanjing, 1937: 300,000 How about the Tiananmen Square massacre? Does China commemorate that too?😝😜 Tiananmen Square massacre news Comparing the rpe of nanjing with tianmen square is very american behavior Are they going to observe the day Covid was released? 🦠 👀 Why do redditors take the chance to mention a completely unrelated thing to a basically a japanese led Holocaust???? The CCP is bad, they kill MILLIONS in famine, but the entire chinese population deserves this grievance because it is THAT awful redditors are scum. "BBBBUTTT WHAT ABOUT TIAANAMEN" Nazi website Meanwhile China’s genocide against the Uyghur’s people is almost complete. Chinas fake government has come full circle. Can always count on moronic Redditors with their moronic takes, instead of educating themselves what happened in nanjing almost 100 years ago. We don’t hear much about Tienenman Square do we ? I've always said that whataboutism is a sign of poor morals. If your response to this post is "but what about..." you should probably do a little bit of looking in the mirror to see what's wrong. submitted by /u/LeiMoshen to r/SubredditDrama [link] [comments]

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"Someone stole my lunch from the office fridge again! We need to stop taking things that don't belong to us and treat each other's property with respect at this workplace!" "Sure, Joe, but am I hearing that maybe you're going to stop keeping pens and staplers that you 'borrow' from people?" "Whataboutism! We're talking about people stealing from ME right now!" "My political movement is the movement of the worker! We don't cozy up to the rich like our opponents - working class people should vote for us!" "Okay - you planning to address the strikes that your movement just got done busting in the context of being pro-worker?" "Whataboutism - we're talking about why my OPPONENT is anti-worker, not ME! Stop changing the subject!" There is a logical or argument fallacy that's vaguely related to "whataboutism" - it's called a non sequitur. It refers to a nonsensical or meaningless shift in conversation that has little to do with what preceded it. "We need to stop stealing lunches from the office fridge!" "Sure, and that's a great point about why it's so important that we meet our Quarter 2 sales goals" is a non-sequitur. "Whataboutism" is non-sequitur for people who lack the context understanding and also the vocabulary to use it - it's a schoolyard argument pretending to be a criticism of argument logic. Maybe we should also start citing instances of "ImRubberAndYoureGlueIsm" or "StopHittingYourselfIsm" - slapping "-ism" on the end of something doesn't make it thoughtful or valid. If there's any positives to it, if someone calls something "whataboutism," they're at least helpfully informing you that trying to reason with them probably isn't worth the breath or effort. submitted by /u/CAustin3 to r/TrueUnpopularOpinion [link] [comments]

"it's ok to do insert some unacceptable violent shit, because what about ..." I feel like some people cannot talk about politics without mentioning some other unrelated matters. And if you really look into the stuff they bring in the conversation, it's usually false or their hard prejudice about controversial matters. Is it that hard to take things at face value? submitted by /u/Substantial_Wash_268 to r/ask [link] [comments]

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Why YSK: If you’ve ever been in an argument where someone responds to a valid criticism with “Well, what about [insert unrelated thing]?” you’ve run into whataboutism. It’s not a real counterargument—it’s just deflection. Here’s the thing: whataboutism doesn’t actually address the issue at hand. Instead, it shifts the conversation to something else entirely, usually to avoid accountability or to make the original criticism seem invalid by comparison. It’s like saying, “Sure, this thing is bad, but look at that other thing over there!” This is not the same as actual criticism. Real criticism engages directly with the issue, offering either counterpoints or additional context. Whataboutism just throws up a smokescreen and derails the conversation. The next time someone hits you with a “what about X?” in a discussion, don’t fall for it. Call it out for what it is—a distraction. Stick to the point and keep the focus where it belongs. Don’t let this rhetorical dodge shut down meaningful conversations. submitted by /u/RatherCritical to r/YouShouldKnow [link] [comments]

EDIT: WATCH THIS https://youtu.be/PuGLJPKY1oc?feature=shared Simple as. I was arguing with an absolute brainlet just recently when he accused me of whataboutism for replying that the candidate he supported also supported the same policy he was attacking the candidate that I supported. For the sake of keeping things apolitical, we'll keep it at that. People don't like having to criticize their own side, as we have become tribalized. It's a rhetorical catch 22, as if you decide to criticize your own side, you're giving ground to the enemy. If you refuse to criticize your own side, then you're a hypocrite. And if you decide to say "muh whataboutism", you are dodging the point. I think that consistency is important and I always state my motivations clearly because I think it's more honest to do so during a discussion or argument. submitted by /u/RitchiePTarded to r/TrueUnpopularOpinion [link] [comments]

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"X is unacceptable" "So you're okay with Y?" "Good ol' whataboutism. Grow up" Seriously why is it hated? Yes it doesn't accomplish anything, and yes, if X and Y are issues going on in different places, it's not gonna fix them, but if people are only caring about X when it's, say, done in a certain place or by a certain person, then whataboutism is the perfect strike to an argument like that. submitted by /u/shitcum2077 to r/unpopularopinion [link] [comments]