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I made a plan to create a relationship contract. I'm having second thoughts. Is this a good idea? A lesson about how religious fundamentalism poisons the mind
I am not the original poster. OOP is CurrentPut9801 in /r/relationship_advice*. ORIGINAL Post recovered through Unddit\* *Mood spoiler:* enraging but the best possible outcome given the situation. ... I made a plan to create a relationship contract. I'm having second thoughts. Is this a good idea? I am extremely unsatisfied with my husband, and I’m going to give him a contract in a last-ditch attempt to make this marriage more satisfying. It’s still functional (if annoying), but I haven’t given up on it being a joy in my life just yet. My husband (34) and I (31) were set up by family members almost seven years ago. Our families are conservative and value marrying young, and we were both getting a little old to be unmarried by their standards. We’ve been married for six, and had two daughters (5 and 2). He’s an accountant, I’m at home with the kids now and will eventually go back to working. In the course of our marriage, a bunch of problems have developed. I’ll explain them, why they bother me, and what I did about them. he started believing that he has depression and anxiety and actually wanted to get a therapist. I don’t believe that those are real things, and I definitely don’t want him going to some lying bitch who will cost a hundred dollars an hour to fill his head with lies. He stopped talking about it, but he still clearly thinks that his problem is clinical (he once ordered a weighted blanket online without telling me. I threw it in the trash before he got home). I made it clear that I don’t want to hear about it and that he needs to man up. He’s become really emotionally weak in general and always seems on edge around me. We set a rule that if he starts crying, he has to leave the room so that he’s not doing it in front of me or the kids. I need him to set a good example for them. He was thin to begin with, and he looks like he’s lost at least twenty pounds (he blamed “anxiety” before I set the rule against talking about it). I’ve told him to get on that because it makes him look like less of a man and he’s already short. No dice. I told him that it makes me look bad as his wife. No dice. I have to scold him into finishing his plate like he’s a child. He seems to be avoiding spending time with me. He takes the kids and leaves to stay at his parents’ every other weekend, and often visits friends on weekends when he doesn’t (again, often taking the kids). Often I’ll tell him not to, but he does it anyhow. This has gotten more frequent as time goes on, and now he’s rarely home on weekends. He works 10:30-8:00, and often he’s not home until nine or ten at night. He says he either had to do some overtime or he went out with a friend after work. Either way, it’s happening much more than it used to. During my second pregnancy, he offered looking after the kid in the morning so that I can sleep in. He can’t stop me from waking up and being with him at that time, but he does say that he likes having time alone with the kids. We end up fighting a lot when we’re together. It’s mostly because if he’s not around a lot, I have to get out all my grievances with him while I have him. I feel like part of the reason why he comes home late is so the kids won’t see us fighting. He’s best friends (or at least used to be, he doesn’t talk to me much about his friendships anymore) with this gay couple. Now, I’m a live-and-let-live type, but my husband seems like the type to be especially vulnerable to their influences (right after we married, he told me that he’s not a very sexual person but that we could have sex as often as I want. In general, he shows very little lust, and essentially none in recent years) and I don’t want them confusing him about who he is or what he wants. He also takes our daughters around them. I’m not sure how comfortable I am with that. He still offers sex when asked to, but he never initiates anymore. I once quit initiating to see how long it would take, and it was almost three months before I broke down and initiated. The sex itself is fine. He’s never been very enthusiastic, but as of late he‘s been even less so, and won’t tell me why. Anyhow, the contract: He has to stop believing that he has depression and anxiety, and toughen up emotionally. He is allowed to cry at home twice a week. He has to gain back the weight he’s lost. He can visit his parents for the weekend once a month, and can leave for a friend’s house for upwards of three and a half hours once a month (visits of three and a half hours or less are not restricted in frequency). He has to stop hanging out with the gay couple he’s friends with. He has to initiate sex at least twice a month, regardless of the frequency at which I am initiating. He has to initiate physical intimacy (kissing) at least twice a week. I will get up early at least twice a week from now on, and the kids will see us interacting like a couple should. During this time he is not to start arguments. In general, he is to stop giving me the impression that he’s avoiding spending time with me. His curfew for weeknights is 9:20, and he may break it once per week. Divorce goes against our religion, so I don’t have to worry about him dropping me over this, plus he’s a pretty passive person in general. And despite everything, I do still want him around. He’s a great provider, the kids love him, and raising two children by myself without his help would be difficult. Plus, no one would want a woman in her 30s with two kids. But I wish he were the man I married. He’s gotten weak and cowardly and it only gets worse the more I tell him to get it together. Basically, I wish I could still respect him. Maybe if I tell him as much, and he sees direct, specific ways he can change that written in ink, he’ll wake up. Four months after he signs the document, we can review it, and if all goes well, hopefully the habits will be in place and we won’t need a contract anymore. Anything I should change before I finalize it and print it out? TL;DR: I am thinking of making a contract in order to make a marriage that we're basically trapped in more pleasant. I need advice on how to make it as effective as possible. ... UPDATE, recovered through Unddit - Help- my (31F) husband (34M) is considering divorce. How do I prevent this? So, two weeks ago I made a post to Reddit about how to fix my relationship with my husband. A little background- we’re 31F and 34M, and have two kids- 5F and 3F. Our religion forbids divorce, and my reputation and social life would be at serious risk if it were known that we had marital problems. If you want to know more about our marital problems, go look at the only post in my post history. I took everyone’s advice- I started being nicer to my husband, got a marriage counselor, never used the marriage contract, and even replaced the item of his that I threw away (it’s ordered. He’ll think it showed up months late, but I’m not admitting to throwing it away when our marriage is already so precarious). For a while, I even thought it was working, because he seemed a little more at ease with me and we weren’t fighting as much. Then, yesterday happened. The marriage counselor said outright that though he almost never recommends divorce, I had “come from an abusive household,” and was “creating a toxic environment for my family.” None of this is true. He said that he couldn’t force us to get a divorce, and that he would continue to help us improve our relationship if we didn’t, but that he couldn’t keep going in good conscious without saying that. He also offered to see us separately to help us handle the emotional side of the divorce, if that’s what we decided. I was disappointed, because I thought I’d found a counselor who understood our situation on a social and religious level. I told him that his services would no longer be needed, and we paid him and left for home. I told my husband on the way back that the counselor was just trying to double his profits by seeing us separately instead of together, and he forced a laugh. Then he started asking questions about how I treat the girls. I treat them fine. He mentioned that our five year old has started leaving the room whenever she cries (up until two weeks ago, I a rule against my husband crying in front of me, so he would leave the room when he started crying during our fights). It’s not my fault she picked that up! I never had that rule for her. He said that that doesn’t make that better. Of course it does?? Anyhow, we were fighting the entire car trip. Last night I didn’t see him. I was asleep before he got home. We saw each other this morning, but didn’t really speak. Then tonight, he brought up divorce again and we got into another screaming match. I told him that if we divorced, it wasn’t just me that our families would hate until the end of time- they’d hate him, too. He was going to make us both pariahs in our church and social circles. Then he took the kids and left to God knows where, saying that he didn’t care because he couldn’t live like this anymore. I’m terrified right now and I don’t know how to talk him out of doing this. What do I do? ... UPDATE #2 on r/legaladvice How to win a custody battle? I am 31F. My husband is 34M. Our kids are 3F, 5F, and one on the way. We're effectively divorced, but we're not going to go through any of the legal stuff yet, because my husband feels it would be wrong to put me through that while I'm pregnant (why he feels it's better to do while I'm caring for an infant is beyond me). He makes the money, I stay home with the kids. He's said that he'll leave me enough to live on, and if I get custody of the kids, more than enough for them to live on- but he's going to fight to get custody if he can. He plans on leaving the kids with his parents while he works if he can pull it off. This is obviously ridiculous. Yes, his parents are retired, but foisting a toddler and an infant on them five days a week (our oldest is in kindergarten)? His reasons for this is because he disagrees with some of my parenting methods, but come on- they're in better (and younger) hands with their mother. So how do I maximize my chances? Edit: Location is Arizona. ... UPDATE #3 on r/Christianity How do I become a nun? I’m planning to become a nun in roughly seven months. Where do I go? What do I bring? What do I have to have done beforehand? I’m not telling anyone what I’m doing beforehand. How easy will it be for them to track me down? I want them to never see me again, but they probably won’t look too hard. Also, can you become a nun if you were married before? We’re currently separated and I could get the divorce in writing at any time. I’m in Arizona, btw, but I’m willing to travel to anywhere in the United States for this. ... UPDATE #4 How to rebuild my life after leaving fundamentalism? I lived all my life thinking that if I just followed God enough and did what I was told it would give me happiness and pride. Instead all it gave me was a miserable marriage to a pathetic man, judgement from all my peers, and so few skills that I have no idea what to do next. I’m 32F, and have never worked for money in my life. I’m three months pregnant our third child, and he wants to divorce me as soon as I’ve recovered from the birth. He wants to take the kids due to differences in parenting methods, and I’ve decided not to fight it. I don’t even want visitation rights. If I never see anyone from my old life again, it’ll be too soon. So... how do I do this? How do I get work skills? What do I do now that I serve hedonism instead of God? Where do I go for social support now that I can’t go to church or anyone from my old life? What do heathens do for fun? Part of me is really excited to wear slutty dresses and watch Marvel movies and drink cocktails and have casual sex and live alone in an apartment with four cats and a common-law lover and stuff like that, but I’m also scared. I don’t know what I’m getting myself into. What if I don’t like it? I can’t wait to leave my family, but what if this isn’t any better? What steps should I be taking right now? ... FINAL UPDATES from OOP's comments 10 months ago, responding to a comment about having been a terrible wife- " Yeah. I’ve started going to therapy and I can see that now. My husband is doing better now that we are only coparents. We’ve decided that it’s best if I don’t have equal custody of the kids, but I’m still going to have visitation rights with them every other weekend. We’ve both left Fundamentalism, and I can’t lie, it’s lonely. I wasn’t really supposed to interact with people outside of it, so I don’t really have friends anymore. Getting a job is also proving pretty difficult while I’m pregnant, but hopefully it’ll go better once the baby is born. We already have a place figured out for me to move into once I’m recovered from the birth, and we’ll formally divorce whenever one of us decides it’s necessary. I imagine since he’ll have young kids to look after it’ll be a while, but we’re okay with that." 3 months ago, responding to a comment about whether or not she has stopped abusing her children " I only see them every other week, but yes. " submitted by /u/thanksyalll to r/BestofRedditorUpdates [link] [comments]
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Goal weight of 130lbs achieved - 35 pounds lost, 5 months, 5'4"F
Where I started: On April 19 of this year, I started at roughly 163 pounds (74 kg) at 5'4" (163 cm) with a BMI of 28 (overweight BMI). Where I ended: On September 10, I hit my goal weight of 130 pounds by weighing in at 129.4 pounds (58.7 kg) and a BMI of 22.3 (normal BMI). Before and After with weight chart: https://i.postimg.cc/MH8xyGvn/Elizalupine_Weight_Goal_Writeup.jpg Timing: When I began the process, I had the intention of losing 1-2 pounds per week which would have taken me about 20 weeks. I estimated pretty well because it took me 21 weeks to reach my goal. On average, I lost 1.6 pounds per week and roughly 7 pounds per month. System: The main system that I used was CICO (calories in, calories out), I tracked my food in MyFitnessPal, and for the first half of my weight loss I used the gym's scale and weighed in once per week, but then switched to a daily weigh-in using the Etekcity Digital Body Weight Bathroom scale. I maintained between a 500 and 1000 calorie deficit, and the exact amount is difficult because of fluctuations with water weight and activity level of that week. This usually worked out to eating 1200-1300 calories during the week and then around 1400 on the weekends which coincided with my workouts. Grab a drink and settle in for my novella about the insights I discovered along the way. I've divided it up into things that worked for me, things that didn't work for me, challenges, and surprises. THINGS THAT WORKED Logging my food became a minimum requirement during my weight loss journey. It's too hard for me to keep track of things in my head, so I log everything that I consume into MFP and I make decisions based on that information. I do not have "cheat meals" or "cheat days" or "no-logging days" because I want to connect the weight fluctuations back to my eating decisions. Of course sometimes I go over my daily limit, but I don't consider that cheating - it's just part of the process. Two things helped to improve my food logging process: at the beginning of my journey, I spent an evening manually importing all of my go-to recipes into MFP's recipe manager, and now I can log those common meals quickly and consistently. Second, I started using a food scale and consistently measured everything in grams, and then found the MFP listings that show the food in grams. I weigh things just before I eat, so if I'm logging some chicken I will look for "chicken breast, cooked, in grams" and use that listing. Tip: ASDA is a grocery chain based in Europe and lists food nutritional values of ingredients and basic foods in grams, so I would search "ASDA corn" to find a listing of cooked corn in grams. One of the main reasons that I have been successful is through joining the 30-day accountability challenges. Shout out to /u/pumpkin_beer , /u/viking187, /u/loquinmalie, and /u/Mountainlioness404d for hosting the challenges! It was so incredibly encouraging to get messages about my thoughts, progress, and reflections and I want to thank them all for taking the time to create a space where we could discuss our daily experiences. Not only was it motivating to talk to other people about the ups and downs, but I set different mini-goals for myself each month that reflected the process in my journey. Each month, I had a daily tracking goal and a monthly mini-goal which was about 5 pounds per month. The first month (May) I focused on reflecting on new behaviors, learning what my body truly needs, and self-soothing techniques that don't require food. The second month (June) I focused on a daily meditation practice, noticing what affects my self-control, and continued reflecting on my new behaviors. The third month (July) I continued the daily meditation practice, noticing what feels good (non-food), and learning how to take anxiety out of cooking. The fourth month (August) I made it more simple and focused on what specific cravings I experienced and instituted a daily appreciation practice. The fifth month (September) I continued the daily appreciation and incorporated a goal to make one new vegetable-based healthy dish per week. During most of the weight loss, I exercised 1-2 days a week with high-intensity kickboxing conditioning classes. Sometimes I would switch one of those days out with an hour on the elliptical machine instead, and I enjoyed watching the TV show Scandal while working out. Mindset: I started losing the weight by thinking "If I want to weigh 130 pounds, I need to eat like a 130-pound person." There was absolutely no shame or self-hate regarding my body at my highest weight, but instead I was making the decision that I no longer needed to carry around 30 pounds of extra weight. I thought of the weight like a storage shed and that I tend to hang on to things longer than they are needed, and the weight loss process was de-cluttering the closet so that I was only carrying around what I needed. This mindset was critical in my success because it didn't feed into a shame spiral and it allowed me to take care of my mental health at the same time as lose the weight. It was a practical and concerted effort rather than an attempt to force my body to change or be someone different than I am. Food: I didn't make any major changes to my diet, and I think this is one of the reasons that it was so successful. Early on I noticed that bread wouldn't sit very well with me after eating it, and it would make me really sleepy, so I removed it from my diet. I didn't make any other intentional changes and focused more on portion control. Of course to maintain a 1000-calorie deficit and not be constantly angry, some gradual changes did occur in my diet. I stopped thinking of foods as "good vs bad" but instead started thinking of them as "worth it vs not worth it." My personal "worth it" foods are ice cream, cake, french fries, fried chicken, chocolate, cheese, and alcohol. My personal "not worth it" foods are tortilla chips, peanut butter, pizza, cheeseburgers, and bread pastries - not because I don't still like these things (I promise, I DO! I absolutely love them) but because the calories were too high or they made me feel too uncomfortable for the level of satisfaction that I gained from them. For example, cheeseburgers are usually 800-1000 calories each, so I couldn't possibly eat one and stay within my calorie range for the day, and because I dislike cheeseburger leftovers, I wouldn't want to eat half and take the rest home; additionally, the bread might make me feel sick, lethargic, and constipated so I just stopped ordering them. On the other hand, a quesadilla reheats well, the thin bread doesn't seem to bother me, and I can portion it out to make it work. Peanut butter is so damn good but the amount that I want to eat is way beyond what I have the calories for, so I just stopped eating it all together (same goes with tortilla chips.) Cakes feel like a special enough treat that I can have it once a week and feel happy that I worked it in, and I would usually split a slice so it's only about 300 calories and my cravings are actually satiated. My piece of advice for anyone who is embarking on this journey - get to know your "worth it vs not worth it foods" and work in the worth it, and just forget about the not worth it foods. It's different for everyone, so learn what works for you!* (see footnote below) Another food change was that I started eating a lot more vegetables. In the past, I avoided vegetables because even though I kept thinking I should eat more, the sound of them was just cold and plain. But due to the low calorie limit, I had to incorporate veggies because they are more filling and less calories than other foods. Now I love roasting root vegetables, and incorporating green vegetables into other dishes. I do eat some salads, but they don't make up the bulk of my diet and instead I will make a chicken and rice bowl and then add some sauteed veggies to give it flavor and bulk up the nutrition. One of the reasons that I don't eat many salads is that my low-calorie dressing options are depressing; there is no good substitute to real olive oil and vinegar and because I love to bulk up salads with lots of different things, they ended up not being very low-calorie. A little bowl of rice and beans with a side of roasted veggies does way more for me than a cold salad. *Footnote: I hated hearing this at the beginning, because I wanted a foolproof system that I knew would just WORK, but the challenge and opportunity of this process is that it IS a process of getting to know yourself. As someone who went through a lot of bad stuff in my childhood, I get very anxious when I have to pay attention to myself and learn what I like/dislike, but that is the only way. It is hard work, it does take dedication, and it does take self-awareness. There is no way of getting out of that. But it's okay because you can also pay attention to what alleviates your stress, and find people that will talk with you every step of the way. We're here for you and you're not alone! Planning: I meal prep for breakfast and lunches during my working week, so I rarely eat anything from the cafeteria unless I ran out of food. I make a list of meals that I want to eat, order the groceries online, and then pick them up from the grocery store to reduce temptation and impulse purchases. I'll usually have oatmeal for breakfast during the week (eggs and potatoes on the weekends), then a basic lunch of protein/starch/veggie in a little glass container, and then another meal for dinner. I tend to eat lean foods like chicken, ground turkey, lean beef, broccoli, kale, sweet potatoes, onions, eggs, almond milk, beans, and mozzarella cheese, and I just rotate those things week by week. I use glass containers (snapware or pyrex) because I don't like the taste of reheated foods in plastic. I stopped drinking lattes, bubble teas, and other high-calorie drinks with the exception of alcohol which I still drink on a weekly basis. I just didn't find that a latte gives me much satisfaction, and it gets in the way of having a snack when I'm hungry. I drink black coffee and a lot of herbal teas. Focusing on portion control did wonders for me, and it re-calibrated my hunger signals. I used to not feel satisfied even after a very big meal, but now I can have a few chips, half a beer, and an appetizer size quesadilla and be absolutely stuffed, and this is good because it's sustainable. If that's my go-to behavior at restaurants, I'll be able to maintain the weight loss. It didn't happen overnight, and the first two weeks were brutal because I was constantly hungry and not used to feeling like that. Over time, my body adjusted to eating less, but I still feel a little weak and lethargic sometimes. It's uncomfortable to eat at a deficit, but that's okay! It's not going to kill me. I switched from automatic eating to intentional eating. If I have a big dinner, sometimes I'm not hungry in the morning, so I will skip breakfast until I'm actually hungry. I am working on not compulsively eating anymore, and it took a lot of dedicated effort in that realm, but I feel pretty much in control now. The main thing that throws me off is when I get poor sleep. THINGS THAT DIDN'T WORK Stressing about how slow the process feels didn't work for me. I had to consciously focus on what I could control today (my intake) and use the forums to discuss my struggles. Doing the weight loss with friends/partner did not work for me either. At the beginning of my process, everyone and their sister also decided to go on a diet and at first, I was so excited to have other people in real life to share in the process! But after about three weeks, they were all back to eating burgers and pizza at lunch, ignoring their calories, stopped tracking, and didn't want to discuss things anymore. I don't judge them for their decision - I've started and stopped in the past too, but the main takeaway is to not rely on other people in your life to keep you motivated. I had to just keep doing my thing regardless of their decisions. I totally bombed when I went on a 4-day road trip with family and tried to stick to a diet - I was stressed and angry the entire time because I felt this strain to choose the most diet-friendly meal on the menu instead of just enjoying the local cuisine and time with them. Dining out for three meals a day is difficult on a 1200-1500 calorie diet, so next time I'll just accept that I'll be eating at maintenance and do some damage control afterward. For a few months, I tried to cut out sweets and desserts from my diet, but it just made me sad. Desserts are a passion of mine (I dream of being a pastry chef) and it just felt so depressing to keep denying myself! Instead, I found some diet-friendly options that satisfied my cravings and allowed me to stick with my restriction: I enjoy fudgiciles, vanilla ice cream, and flourless chocolate cake from skinnytaste. Expecting linear weight loss left me angry and disappointed! I lost a bunch of weight within the first 2 weeks, then I plateaued during the month of June, then I had another big whoosh during July, and then plateaued BAD during the month of August, but then dropped 5 pounds within a week in September. The stall and whoosh is real, and I'm so glad that I had the people in this forum to tell me what to expect. CHALLENGES Clothing: One of my motivators as I lost weight was to save up money (relative to the amount of weight loss) and buy a new wardrobe once I hit my goal, but I needed new clothes along the way, and I didn't want to spend any of that money on temporary clothes. I thrifted when I could, but then soon enough those were hanging off of me before I was at my goal weight. Basically, I looked frumpy this whole summer because nothing fit and I wouldn't spend money on intermediary clothes. Still, I had a hard time saving up money because I have a lot of bills and debt, but I had around $800 once I hit my goal weight. This didn't go very far once I decided to build a capsule wardrobe and only spend money on clothes that feel amazing, so I only managed to get a few basics with my saved up cash. I haven't overcome this challenge because although I do have some stuff to wear (basically jeans, bras and tees), there are so many more styles that I want to wear and I have no money to buy them! What's my goal? I had a weight goal in mind when I started the process and it was the lowest of recent memory (140 pounds.) I thought that that was the lowest that I could realistically achieve, but after looking on this forum and some others, I saw women my height at much lower weights than that, and it changed my perception. So I modified my goal to being the lowest in my adult life (130 pound) because that's what I saw other women at my height that I admired online, so I thought that would be a good goal. Once I reached my goal, I was happy with my size but wanting some more toning in the glutes and abs, so I'll be moving into a body recomp. The takeaway here is that it's okay for goals to change, it's okay to not be sure what you ultimately want, and you may arrive to your goal and want something different. It's a process, and as long as you're moving in a healthy direction, I think it's okay! SURPRISES I feel so much better. I had mental health goals when I started (also vanity goals), but it never dawned on me that I would also feel better physically. I wanted to mend my relationship with food, and I think I have done that (for the most part) but I didn't think that losing weight would physically make me feel better. I sleep better, it's easier to go on hikes (I fly up the trail), overall I actually feel less hungry, I can reach my toes to put on shoes or paint my toes without pressing my gut, and running is easier. People see me! I had a difficult childhood and it left me feeling ignored and invisible, but this weight loss process has shown that people see me, notice me, and validate me. Mostly everyone at work has complimented my weight loss saying "wow you lost a ton of weight." I didn't think 30 pounds was that noticeable, but it made me realize that they saw me. After the initial hunger pangs from eating less food subsided, I was surprisingly satisfied with a calorie deficit. It wasn't nearly as painful as I always imagined! I started drinking way more water because I wasn't getting as much through eating, and that made me realize that many times that I feel awful and weak, I am often dehydrated. Not always, sometimes I truly am hungry, but it's helped me to learn more about myself. My rate of weight loss was really unexpected. I lost 10 pounds in the first couple of weeks, and then I was down 25 pounds in the first few months, but then it took me another 2 months to lose another 10. The initial success was extremely motivating and helped me to get through the lulls by showing me that I was on the right path. Through this process, I realized that I comforted myself with food, and that was a big (and very helpful) realization for me. I learned that I need to cope with my emotions by being present with them, by reaching out for support from the people who are closest to me, and I need warmth. When my body doesn't feel good, getting wrapped up in a blanket and holding a heating pad really does soothe me. Being compassionate toward myself has really helped me to not eat my emotions. Do these posts have a word limit? I better wrap this up or else I'll never post, and I really want this to be shared with the community that did so much for me. Thank you for reading, and I hope that something resonated with you. My main advice is to find your pep-talk people, be honest with yourself (you won't get far if you are in denial), and also be gentle with yourself - this is a hard process and it doesn't always feel good. But just put one foot in front of the other and keep going on the path that takes you where you want to go. submitted by /u/Elizalupine to r/loseit [link] [comments]
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